The company continued in business until WWII, even though some new optical technologies, which would make these telescopic steel tube scopes obsolete. As a tribute to William Malcolm, our modern Malcolm vintage reproduction scopes are constructed to same specs with the general look and feel of the original scopes. Joe Miller, I believe, on the Unertl Yahoo Group maintains a listing of known Unertl scope serial numbers in numerical order. In addition there are other interesting scope files on the Group. (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) If your scope isn't on the list - send it to a post that Joe started.
Mount screws are included in all block prices.
Scope blocks are available in many configurations and heights. The list below shows the more common, in-stock items.
Blocks are unhardened, black-oxide finished, and usable interchangeably for either round or octagonal barrels, unless otherwise specified.
Hole spacing is .560' front and .860' rear, unless noted.
Prices are for individual blocks, except for Springfield and Mann-Neidner blocks which are priced as a set.
On-line ordering of scope blocks could be problematic due to the vast range available. There are no 'buy-it-now' buttons here!
Please note that this product line is all directed towards the 60° dovetail, external-adjustment type of scopes (including Redfield 3200).
We do not carry any products for the 'modern' Weaver or Picatinny sort of mounts.
We are not familiar with every possible combination of obscure rifles and sights or scopes being mounted on them.
When we have information that we believe is correct, we're glad to pass it along. If we don't know, we'll just say so!
J Unertl Scope Serial Numbers
There are a lot of shooters and shooting forums where the information you are seeking may (or may not!) be found.
Many less-common scopes, sights, and rifles are out there. These may need mounts which constitute 'specials', which we cannot take on at this time (2019).
If time permits (meaning not right away), we'd like to compile a list giving known rifle/block information, and post it here.
We have many old Unertl and Lyman mount charts for reference - including info that is confusing, contradictory, out-of-date, or just plain wrong!
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Some day, barring accidental loss, the Lyman records may again become available, as they were (for a fee) when Gil Parsons, who acquired them from Lyman, was alive. At the present time, his elderly widow is simply sitting on them, declining either to sell them or make them available. Unertl's records had already been 'lost' well before the company closed its doors for good. They'd been 'put in storage' at the time of their last change of location I was told in the early '80s. (Rather unbelievably for such a long established company, all their previous factory spaces had been leased, according to Elsie Unertl.). I have a Lyman Super Targetspot which I ordered a research letter for from Parson's in 2006. The letter gives the following information: Super Targetspot, Serial #9741, 20 power, manufactured 6/27/1951,.0007 standard crosswire, date researched 9/20/06.
When I received the letter I was kind of surprised by the date of manufacture, I assumed the scope was produced a little earlier maybe 1946-48. I have always wondered if Lyman manufactured each model of Targetspot with its own serial number sequence, or were they were all numbered in the same sequence? I am also curious if anybody has an idea of the break point for pre-war vs. Post-war serial numbers in the Targetspot series? Anybody know? Regards, Tom. Tom in michigan said I have always wondered if Lyman manufactured each model of Targetspot with its own serial number sequence, or were they were all numbered in the same sequence?
I am also curious if anybody has an idea of the break point for pre-war vs. Post-war serial numbers in the Targetspot series? Anybody know? Regards, Tom Very good question about the serial number sequence, and now that Parsons is not around to answer it, it may be difficult to find out for sure; don't waste your breath asking the folks now running dear the old Lyman company! It's easier, however, to distinguish between pre- and post-war scopes of all makes: lens coatings (developed in Germany) became a big selling point right after the war, so a bluish reflection on the lens probably means post-war. 'Probably,' only because many optical companies began hyping coating services right after the war; a '48 Unertl catalog I have devotes about 10 pages to promoting their coating service for anything optical--binoculars, camera lenses, etc. I have many pre-war Lyman catalogs, but no post-war, so I don't know if they were doing the same, but I suspect so.
Tom in michigan said I have a Lyman Super Targetspot which I ordered a research letter for from Parson's in 2006. The letter gives the following information: Super Targetspot, Serial #9741, 20 power, manufactured 6/27/1951,.0007 standard crosswire, date researched 9/20/06. When I received the letter I was kind of surprised by the date of manufacture, I assumed the scope was produced a little earlier maybe 1946-48.
J Unertl Scope Serial Numbers
I have always wondered if Lyman manufactured each model of Targetspot with its own serial number sequence, or were they were all numbered in the same sequence? I am also curious if anybody has an idea of the break point for pre-war vs. Post-war serial numbers in the Targetspot series?
Unertl Scope Date Of Manufacture
Anybody know? Regards, Tom tom, The Parson letter you have for your 'Super Targetspot, Serial #9741, 20 power, manufactured 6/27/1951' truly has me baffled over these scopes and their serial numbering. For example, a Senich reference citing Gil Parson/De Le Fortrie Collection for a 20 power Super Targetspot scope was furnished by Lyman in 1949 to the USMC.and the serial number shown for it is 1752 (I'm thinking that the fifth and last number was cropped from the picture). On a later page, another 20 power Super Tragetspot serial numbered scope 17515 (cited as circa 1949, also) is shown as being USMC Property. These two scopes are most likely from the same 1949 order, IMO. I've also wondered about how Lyman serially numbered their scopes and I'm thinking it was by the model. Like Clarence mentioned, it might be difficult to find out now that Parson is not around.